Sex köpare

Frank A (@frankie-boy) · 33 Replies ·
Ny hårdare lag för sex köpare är på gång.
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  • Dadix (@dadix) · Dadix · · (#0)
    Typiskt svenskt! Det skulle inte förvĂ„na mig om det införs ” öppen hĂ€ngning av dömda sex köpare pĂ„ torget runt om i Sverige snart ” LĂ„t de smĂ„ partierna som bestĂ€mma om allt varför inte ha skatten pĂ„ frisk luft och inte ha strĂ€ngaste straffet för sexköp mitt i EU đŸ‡ȘđŸ‡ș 😉
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  • eanders (@eanders) · · · (#0)
    ska ru Äka in i finkan för du överlÀmna 1500 kr och hon tyckte det va okej
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  • eanders (@eanders) · · · (#0)
    du Äker pÄ lÄngt fÀngelse straff för du e ju hennes pimp hÄller bara pÄ och spama forumet
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  • craazyuser · · · (#0)
    lagen fungerar inte för att skydda kvinnor, mÀn Àr rÀdda för att rapportera mÀnniskohandel. IstÀllet för att vara som Tyskland fördubblas feministisk makt. Snart kommer mÀn att gÄ i fÀngelse pÄ riktigt
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  • Martinooogbg (@martingbg) · · · (#0)
    Vart kan man lÀsa om denna lag?
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  • not_a_bird (@not_a_bird) · · · (#0)
    So, just out of curiosity. If I'm caught paying a male escort, is it the same severity of punishment or is it only female sex services that are punished?
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    • probably nothing. Women are 'abused' and a 'victim', even when they make 14 000 SEK or so a day. Tax free! But when a man works in sewage or cleaning, for 1100 SEK a day, that's 'his job'. Women have taken all power
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    • Mange543 (@mange442) · MrLovaLova · · not_a_bird (#160858)
      I don't think the law differentiates between the sexes of the sellers. However, in practise, it's probably very unlikely for someone to be caught if purchasing sex from a man, as the police tends to focus on clients purchasing from women.
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    • Nyfiken (@nyfiken) · I like big butts and I can not lie · · not_a_bird (#160858)
      Only female.
      Gay prostitution i a perpetual blindspot for the bigots in charge. To continue on Mange543's reasoning, there will likely be a difference at court as well. The law (text) must treat the sexes equally, but the politicized courts will definitely be heavily influenced by intersectional power theories (all men have power, only women can be victims).
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    • Nyfiken (@nyfiken) · I like big butts and I can not lie · · not_a_bird (#160858)
      They literally exemplify it in point 19, where the text is neutral but their intended application in the header is women only.

      I'm looking forward to when point 20 will backfire and blow up in their faces:

      20. Straffansvar för psykiskt vÄld
      Förekomsten av psykiskt vÄld Àr omfattande nÀr det handlar om brott i nÀra relation. En utredning ska övervÀga om det finns skÀl att stÀrka det straffrÀttsliga skyddet mot psykiskt vÄld och olika former av nedbrytande handlingar.

      While it is intended to save women from manipulative men, we all know who the emotional and psychological tyrant of the household is in general. In the past, examples of this abusive (male!) behaviour have been:
      * Dictating what friends she are allowed to have/not have
      * Dictating acceptable/unacceptable clothes to wear in public
      Etc...
      Anyone who has ever been around a male in a stable relationship in the western world, knows which sex is on the recieving end of this, and it is NOT the female.
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  • Nyfiken (@nyfiken) · I like big butts and I can not lie · · (#0)
    https://www.regeringen.se/49d6ba/contentassets/ddda15ab99c042a0b66cd4e644ce85ae/atgardspaket-for-att-intensifiera-arbetet-mot-mans-vald-mot-kvinnor-210616-ch-1055.pdf

    16. StÀrkt arbete mot prostitution och mÀnniskohandel
    Skyddet och stödet till utsatta inom prostitution och mÀnniskohandel ska stÀrkas, bland annat i samarbete med civilsamhÀllet och i förhÄllande till Sveriges Ätagande att erbjuda ett sÀkert ÄtervÀndande för offer för mÀnniskohandel.

    18. Den som Àr utsatt för sexköp ska betraktas som ett brottsoffer
    Brottsförebyggande rĂ„det (BRÅ) har ett uppdrag att följa upp tillĂ€mpningen av förbudet mot köp av sexuella tjĂ€nster. De ska inom ramen föruppdraget göra en fördjupad analys av fördelarna med att den som utsĂ€tts för prostitution ska ses som mĂ„lsĂ€gande.

    19. Ny straffskÀrpningsgrund för hat mot kvinnor
    En utredning ska övervÀga en ny straffskÀrpningsgrund för brott dÀr ett motiv varit att offret Àr av ett visst kön eller har en viss könsidentitet.

    SÄ ja, de vill lagstadga mot kÀnslan hat (nÀr det passar dem). Jag vÀntar med spÀnning pÄ nÀr kÀnslan kÀrlek blir pÄbjuden (nÀr det passar dem). Helt orelaterat föreslÄr jag 1984 som boktips.
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  • VladFromTransylvania (@vladfromtransylvania) · · · (#0)
    Å andra sidan kan en ny regering vara pĂ„ gĂ„ng.
    https://www.svt.se/nyheter/nyhetstecken/sd-har-lamnat-in-en-misstroendeforklaring-1
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  • shyjohn (@shyjohn) · · · (#0)
    I really like how they focus on the bad, say it's about the person (woman) being abused etc., but do they actually care about the people (not just women) who actively chose to do this? Nope. Many escorts have come forward, here and in other places to tell of how they were (mis-)treated by police and social workers, being viewed as victims when they were not, being removed from the country even though what they are doing is perfectly legal...

    Sometimes it is claimed that there is a financial disparity between the seller and the buyer, that the buyer (they say this but they mean men...) is in a power position... So, how is this true any time the buyer is low income? When the cost of 60min is half their monthly rent and the seller has a job, does this on the side, and can walk away whenever they feel like it (Being used to the extra income is no excuse, they are NOT forced into it)...

    When it comes to people who come here specifically to do this it becomes a bit more difficult to differentiate, but when it's someone who lives here, has other income, has access to the social security tthe system does offer, no argument can be made that they have no choice because they do.

    Also, nobody who make an argument against the sale of sexual services (you pay for their time and services (you do NOT buy their bodies, no matter what some people claim, that argument is a s weak as claiming making illegal copies is theft (it's not)) always conveniently forget to include any seller who's very much against their trade being illegal, who strongly argues against the Swedish model (I read a long debate article in the UK written by actual sellers who said it will be worse for them if you introduce this in the UK) and who actually do this for a living or as a side gig.

    We are always told about the bad side, how it's all trafficking and people (women...) being forced into it, never about the ones that can handle it and see it as a viable source of income.

    In my eyes it's a job, pure and simple. One they shouldn't force you into if you're unemployed of course, but one that should be an option no matter your gender.

    I've toyed with the idea of selling some services, though naturally it'd be hard for me to find women willing to pay me for them, and since I'm not really into men the services I could offer would be limited to what I'd find OK, but yeah, this does mean I have a valid opinion since I'm actually willing to put myself in their shoes, right? Well, wrong, because 1) I'm male, and 2) despite me (if I do it) obviously making a choice I'd still be considered a fucking victim...

    Also, they never seem to consider that while monsters do exist, and some buyers are really viewing you as a piece of meat, MANY sellers can tell you how most of their customers are quite decent, regardless of if they have chemistry with them or not, I mean I see it as a date with a known outcome, and I really have no reason to mistreat anyone I meant unless they treat me badly, and in the end I will at most write about the bad experience online and maybe ask the seller in a message what happened to the promised service :p

    I'm no saint, but chances are that if I've met someone they didn't hate me, and some, I know, actually had a good time with me, something which is evident when you end up cuddling and talking about life and other things besides sex.

    But yeah, I deserve jail time and being subjected to character assassination. Yup.
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    • It's only the women who push this victim mentality, that's what you get when you have them make laws, they try to take any power from men that they can. They see it as a zero sum game between men & women
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    • Hooker Lover (@johnpunter) · · · (#0)
      Och i Norge vurderar dom att avskaffa lagen dÄ den nte fungerar
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    • Manuela · Hi Guys my name is Manuela,I'm sweet, sensual, elegant, pla · · (#0)
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    • not_a_bird (@not_a_bird) · · · (#0)
      Just move to Russia. Moscow is literally a paradise for a sex köpare.
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